From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the
>>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday
>>>> event.
>>>
>>> Stop whining.
>>
>> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh?
>
> Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare.

Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has
higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead,
we'll wait.
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote:
> On Feb 17, 8:14 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>> In article <4b7c5da2$0$4850$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my
> employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on health
> insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able to afford the
> medications I depend on. If I were to sell my house and take my kids
> out of college so I could afford to buy my own insurance policy, it
> wouldn't cover my meds because they would be deemed to be for a pre-
> existing condition. What's your solution to that, Bert?

Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly.
From: BAR on
In article <7u5825FnbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, dene(a)remove.ipns.com
says...
>
> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> news:djeqn5tcnh05elu1ccmuhkln8nbnarhobe(a)4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:13:18 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > >For years I was subjected to socialized medicine where you go into the
> > >clinic and you get the doctor on duty. No choice, no continuity of care,
> > >just look you over, prescribe something and move onto the next patient
> > >to clear out the waiting room before 4:30 PM.
> >
> > I would guess half of the insured people in the United States are in
> > that boat.
>
> Bert describes an HMO in what you quoted above. Most people do not have
> these plans anymore. They have PPO's.

Actually it was military medicine. I was a military dependent and you
got whomever was on duty that day. This was part of my dads benefits
being a military officer.


From: BAR on
In article <heeqn5t4n74elvsb0rnhigul3osp3ep80b(a)4ax.com>,
howard(a)brazee.net says...
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:38:42 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Cheaper for those who do not work, those who do not pay taxes and those
> >> >who don't have a conscience.
> >>
> >> Same cost for those who don't work. Everybody pays taxes, so those
> >> guys will pay more. There are plenty of people without conscience
> >> in every income bracket paying what they need.
> >
> >Not everyone pays income taxes.
>
> Who mentioned income taxes? Everybody pays taxes.

Figure 1 says income taxes are important, very important.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-
book/background/numbers/revenue.cfm
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:05:35 -0500, BAR wrote:
> In article <7u5825FnbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, dene(a)remove.ipns.com
> says...
>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>> news:djeqn5tcnh05elu1ccmuhkln8nbnarhobe(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:13:18 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For years I was subjected to socialized medicine where you go into
>>>> the clinic and you get the doctor on duty. No choice, no continuity
>>>> of care, just look you over, prescribe something and move onto the
>>>> next patient to clear out the waiting room before 4:30 PM.
>>>
>>> I would guess half of the insured people in the United States are in
>>> that boat.
>>
>> Bert describes an HMO in what you quoted above. Most people do not
>> have these plans anymore. They have PPO's.
>
> Actually it was military medicine. I was a military dependent and you
> got whomever was on duty that day. This was part of my dads benefits
> being a military officer.

That is not universal healthcare. No wonder you're so confused.