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From: William Clark on 17 Feb 2010 22:09 In article <4b7c98a4$0$21010$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:08:55 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <4b7c6759$0$4859$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:43:55 -0800, dene wrote: > >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>> news:4b7c5d2c$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote: > >>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. > >>>>>> There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the > >>>>>> waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No > >>>>>> treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. > >>>>> > >>>>> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the > >>>>> same." > >>>> > >>>> If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are > >>>> clearly different from me. If they want to lay around all day and > >>>> be losers, that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to get > >>>> stuck paying for them. That is exactly what is happening in this > >>>> broken system. Don't you think it's wrong? > >>> > >>> Did I just get a whiff of personal responsibility in this diatribe? > >>> There's hope for you, Carbs!!! ;> > >> > >> Obviously I believe in hard work and personal responsibility. Why > >> would anyone assume otherwise? Because I'm a liberal? > >> > >> The biggest advantage to universal healthcare is that it's cheaper. > >> It doesn't make financial sense to have this huge insurance > >> bureaucracy if all the unemployed people can just go to emergency and > >> stick the insureds with all the bills. It's crazy. > > > > Cheaper for those who do not work, those who do not pay taxes and > > those who don't have a conscience. > > I was billed $500+ for one minute of a doctor's time. A less corrupt > healthcare system would be cheaper for me. And for you, not that your > political beliefs allow you to rationally consider the matter. Just as I (or rather, my insurance) was billed $1,650 for a Ti-6-4 hip prosthesis, that costs about $700. Amazing.
From: assimilate on 18 Feb 2010 00:07 On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>> So what is US health care costs more? If the American people want it > >>> that way, that's the way it should be. > >> > >> In my experience people do not like getting ripped off. > > > > Do you want the doctors that the rest of the doctors send their > > families too? Do you want the doctors who keep up with all of the > > latest literature? Do you want the doctors who have the best > > diagnostic equipment? Do you want the hospitals that have the best > > equipment and facilities? Do you want the hospitals that have the > > best personnel? Do you want to survive your next visit to the > > emergency room? My answer to all of these questions is yes and I am > > willing to bay extra for all of them. Or, you can go to the doctor > > that graduated 500 out of 500 in his class at medical school. Go to > > the hospital that is always on the edge of loosing its license to > > operate. It is your choice. > > It is enlightening that you see such a complex problem in such a binary > either/or way. What is binary about choice? You would like to freely choose, you just don't want others to. -- bill-o
From: assimilate on 18 Feb 2010 00:13 On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > but yet again when the Repulicains thought they were wasting money, > > the Dems come in and school them on how to do it right! > > That's certainly the fantasy interpretation. you obviously failed basic math. Can you say an order of magnitude? I knew you could! -- bill-o
From: assimilate on 18 Feb 2010 00:17 On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > Cheaper for those who do not work, those who do not pay taxes and > > those who don't have a conscience. > > I was billed $500+ for one minute of a doctor's time. A less corrupt > healthcare system would be cheaper for me. And for you, not that your > political beliefs allow you to rationally consider the matter. You chose to go to the most expensive place to see a Dr when it really wasn't an emergency. But it was the system's fault. -- bill-o
From: assimilate on 18 Feb 2010 00:18
On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > >> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > >> event. > > > > Stop whining. > > I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh? Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. -- bill-o |