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From: William Clark on 18 Feb 2010 19:36 In article <MPG.25e7a4547627fe56989bff(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <4b7dca63$0$32616$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > > >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > > >>>> event. > > >>> > > >>> Stop whining. > > >> > > >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh? > > > > > > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > > > Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has > > higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead, > > we'll wait. > > Please find a country on the planet that has higher cancer survival > rates. Try Scandinavia, for a start. And for a fraction of the cost.
From: BAR on 18 Feb 2010 19:35 In article <4b7dd781$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:05:35 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <7u5825FnbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, dene(a)remove.ipns.com > > says... > >> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > >> news:djeqn5tcnh05elu1ccmuhkln8nbnarhobe(a)4ax.com... > >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:13:18 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> For years I was subjected to socialized medicine where you go into > >>>> the clinic and you get the doctor on duty. No choice, no continuity > >>>> of care, just look you over, prescribe something and move onto the > >>>> next patient to clear out the waiting room before 4:30 PM. > >>> > >>> I would guess half of the insured people in the United States are in > >>> that boat. > >> > >> Bert describes an HMO in what you quoted above. Most people do not > >> have these plans anymore. They have PPO's. > > > > Actually it was military medicine. I was a military dependent and you > > got whomever was on duty that day. This was part of my dads benefits > > being a military officer. > > That is not universal healthcare. No wonder you're so confused. It didn't cost me a dime and I could go to any US military hospital or clinic around the world and receive medical care. In emergencies I could go to non-military hospitals and receive care for free. "Universal health care is health care coverage for all eligible residents of a political region and often covers medical, dental and mental health care. Typically, costs are borne in the majority by publicly-funded programs." This sounds appropriate to Military Health Care. They covered medical, dental and mental health and it was from a publicly funded program.
From: BAR on 18 Feb 2010 19:39 In article <4b7ddbe7$0$4984$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > The disdain came later, when I realized that I was getting stuck paying > for them. Be honest for once: don't you resent having to pay through the > nose for these people? Wouldn't it be better to have them pay at least > some of their healthcare costs as taxes? No, I want them to open up their wallets and pay for the services they receive. Taxes are just a way of sharing expenses. Do you know what I paid in federal income taxes last year? I won't even include my wife's federal taxes.
From: Carbon on 18 Feb 2010 20:12 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:39:22 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b7ddbe7$0$4984$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> >> The disdain came later, when I realized that I was getting stuck >> paying for them. Be honest for once: don't you resent having to pay >> through the nose for these people? Wouldn't it be better to have them >> pay at least some of their healthcare costs as taxes? > > No, I want them to open up their wallets and pay for the services they > receive. Taxes are just a way of sharing expenses. Yes! Finally. Taxes paid on beer and cigarettes by these people would offset costs incurred in other areas. Like, oh, I don't know... healthcare. You can slap yourself in the forehead now. I'll wait.
From: Carbon on 18 Feb 2010 20:17
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:20:38 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b7dc9b0$0$4949$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:56:36 -0500, BAR wrote:pretend otherwise. >>> In article <4b7c98d0$0$21010$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:07:45 -0500, BAR wrote: >>>>> In article <4b7c5d2c$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote: >>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last >>>>>>>> summer. There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking >>>>>>>> people in the waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) >>>>>>>> minute. No treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the >>>>>>> same." >>>>>> >>>>>> If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are >>>>>> clearly different from me. If they want to lay around all day and >>>>>> be losers, that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to >>>>>> get stuck paying for them. That is exactly what is happening in >>>>>> this broken system. Don't you think it's wrong? >>>>> >>>>> Don't you have compassion for your fellow man. >>>>> >>>>> Or, should there be two waiting rooms? One for the elite liberals >>>>> and another for the rest of us? >>>> >>>> There should be a less corrupt healthcare system so I don't get >>>> stuck paying for them. >>> >>> You are a selfish pig. Where is your compassion for your fellow man >>> who is less fortunate than you. >> >> Spare me the bullshit. You don't care whether these people live or >> die. > > Yes, I do care if they live or die. I just don't want to have to > support them for the rest of my life. I want to teach them to support > themselves. You want to teach them, do you? That is truly funny. If universal healthcare provided healthcare for less total cost than private healthcare plus taxes, would it still be a bad thing? |