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From: Howard Brazee on 17 Feb 2010 21:58 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:07:45 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >Or, should there be two waiting rooms? One for the elite liberals and >another for the rest of us? Such a class structure has centuries of backing, before revolutions such as the U.S. revolution started the process of rejecting it. But if we're rich enough, we can bypass the lines at airports even today. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Carbon on 17 Feb 2010 22:02 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:51:38 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: > On 17 Feb 2010 22:02:01 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > >> The biggest advantage to universal healthcare is that it's cheaper. >> It doesn't make financial sense to have this huge insurance >> bureaucracy if all the unemployed people can just go to emergency and >> stick the insureds with all the bills. It's crazy. > > Some people are willing to pay more if it means they can avoid > acknowledging that they are paying for the "wrong" people. Yes, I believe you're right. I don't know what else could be driving the the rabid resistance to universal healthcare on the part of so many conservatives. While for me there is a moral component--I believe it's inhumane to deny healthcare to people because they are different from me--my primary motive is economic: it's just cheaper to just give everyone reasonable healthcare and be done with it.
From: Howard Brazee on 17 Feb 2010 22:02 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:37:54 -0800, "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote: >If I were in charge, the first thing I would do is make restaurants >quit using transfats or explain why not. Why? Because there just >doesn't seem to be any reason to poison people (exaggeration) for >no reason. I hope you're joking. This attitude is as bad as the Religious Right's demand to tell us how to behave. Might as well proscribe even mildly dangerous sports, driving over 10mph, hiking in the woods, farm equipment, not wearing hats, etc. Read Jack Williamson's "With Folded Hands". -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: William Clark on 17 Feb 2010 22:08 In article <360049a9-612c-48ca-bd17-513c1b76f69c(a)l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Feb 17, 5:02�pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:43:55 -0800, dene wrote: > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > >news:4b7c5d2c$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote: > > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > >>>news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > >>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: > > > > >>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. > > >>>> There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the > > >>>> waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No > > >>>> treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. > > > > >>> Underclass? �I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the > > >>> same." > > > > >> If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are > > >> clearly different from me. If they want to lay around all day and be > > >> losers, that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to get stuck > > >> paying for them. That is exactly what is happening in this broken > > >> system. �Don't you think it's wrong? > > > > > Did I just get a whiff of personal responsibility in this diatribe? > > > There's hope for you, Carbs!!! �;> > > > > Obviously I believe in hard work and personal responsibility. Why would > > anyone assume otherwise? Because I'm a liberal? > > > > The biggest advantage to universal healthcare is that it's cheaper. It > > doesn't make financial sense to have this huge insurance bureaucracy if > > all the unemployed people can just go to emergency and stick the > > insureds with all the bills. It's crazy. > > How do you prevent people with no money from going to emergency rooms? Well, you do what Bertie wants, lock them out to die in the streets.
From: Carbon on 17 Feb 2010 22:08
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:53:46 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:14:32 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > >>How do you prevent people with no money from going to emergency rooms? > > I suppose we can make emergency patients go through the same kind of > wait we need to buy firearms. During that wait the expanded > bureaucracy can verify that you have the means to pay. That sounds very efficient. |