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From: BAR on 18 Feb 2010 19:20 In article <4b7dc9b0$0$4949$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:56:36 -0500, BAR wrote:pretend otherwise. > > In article <4b7c98d0$0$21010$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:07:45 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4b7c5d2c$0$4850$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote: > >>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. > >>>>>> There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the > >>>>>> waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No > >>>>>> treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. > >>>>> > >>>>> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the > >>>>> same." > >>>> > >>>> If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are > >>>> clearly different from me. If they want to lay around all day and > >>>> be losers, that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to get > >>>> stuck paying for them. That is exactly what is happening in this > >>>> broken system. Don't you think it's wrong? > >>> > >>> Don't you have compassion for your fellow man. > >>> > >>> Or, should there be two waiting rooms? One for the elite liberals > >>> and another for the rest of us? > >> > >> There should be a less corrupt healthcare system so I don't get stuck > >> paying for them. > > > > You are a selfish pig. Where is your compassion for your fellow man > > who is less fortunate than you. > > Spare me the bullshit. You don't care whether these people live or die. Yes, I do care if they live or die. I just don't want to have to support them for the rest of my life. I want to teach them to support themselves.
From: BAR on 18 Feb 2010 19:23 In article <4b7dc8ab$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:04:47 -0500, BAR wrote: > > In article <4b7c9c83$0$30935$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:02:54 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4b7c1627$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:58:02 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>>>> In article <4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> BS, Jack, as per usual. The hospitals don't "absorb the cost", > >>>>>>> they recoup it by overcharging patients who do have insurance. > >>>>>>> In other words, they are allowed to tax you and me. Gosh, sounds > >>>>>>> like a public option, without the honesty or accountability. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. > >>>>>> There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the > >>>>>> waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No > >>>>>> treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. > >>>>> > >>>>> Why didn't you go to a Doc-In-A-Box, it would have been cheaper. > >>>>> And, obviously you were not in a life threatening situation. > >>>> > >>>> At the time I wasn't sure it wasn't going to become an emergency. > >>>> And coming from a place that has a less corrupt healthcare system, > >>>> I had no idea I would be fucked to that extent. > >>> > >>> If you went to the Doc-In-A-Box and it was an emergency they would > >>> have called 911 to send an ambulance to take you to the emergency > >>> room. > >>> > >>> You are the problem, not the solution. > >> > >> I thought I was going to have to have a scope put down my esophagus > >> to clear the obstruction. I sure as hell wasn't going to waste my > >> time on some mall doctor who wouldn't have had the proper equipment. > >> If you want to take chances like that, go right ahead. > > > > The best for Carbs and screw the smelly people in the waiting room. > > FU. You brought up your disdain for the smelly people in the waiting room.
From: BAR on 18 Feb 2010 19:24 In article <4b7dca63$0$32616$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > >>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > >>>> event. > >>> > >>> Stop whining. > >> > >> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, huh? > > > > Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that has > higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go ahead, > we'll wait. Please find a country on the planet that has higher cancer survival rates.
From: Carbon on 18 Feb 2010 19:31 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:23:30 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b7dc8ab$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:04:47 -0500, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4b7c9c83$0$30935$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:02:54 -0500, BAR wrote: >>>>> In article <4b7c1627$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:58:02 -0500, BAR wrote: >>>>>>> In article <4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BS, Jack, as per usual. The hospitals don't "absorb the cost", >>>>>>>>> they recoup it by overcharging patients who do have insurance. >>>>>>>>> In other words, they are allowed to tax you and me. Gosh, >>>>>>>>> sounds like a public option, without the honesty or >>>>>>>>> accountability. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last >>>>>>>> summer. There were a lot of underclass unemployed looking >>>>>>>> people in the waiting room. I talked to the doctor for one (1) >>>>>>>> minute. No treatment was performed. The cost: around $500. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why didn't you go to a Doc-In-A-Box, it would have been cheaper. >>>>>>> And, obviously you were not in a life threatening situation. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the time I wasn't sure it wasn't going to become an emergency. >>>>>> And coming from a place that has a less corrupt healthcare >>>>>> system, I had no idea I would be fucked to that extent. >>>>> >>>>> If you went to the Doc-In-A-Box and it was an emergency they would >>>>> have called 911 to send an ambulance to take you to the emergency >>>>> room. >>>>> >>>>> You are the problem, not the solution. >>>> >>>> I thought I was going to have to have a scope put down my esophagus >>>> to clear the obstruction. I sure as hell wasn't going to waste my >>>> time on some mall doctor who wouldn't have had the proper >>>> equipment. If you want to take chances like that, go right ahead. >>> >>> The best for Carbs and screw the smelly people in the waiting room. >> >> FU. > > You brought up your disdain for the smelly people in the waiting room. The disdain came later, when I realized that I was getting stuck paying for them. Be honest for once: don't you resent having to pay through the nose for these people? Wouldn't it be better to have them pay at least some of their healthcare costs as taxes?
From: BAR on 18 Feb 2010 19:30
In article <4b7dcb52$0$27203$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:24:00 -0800, John B. wrote: > > On Feb 17, 8:14�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >> In article <4b7c5da2$0$4850$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > I don't wany my access to all the above to be dependent on my > > employment and how much my employer is willing to spend on health > > insurance. If I were to lose my job, I wouldn't be able to afford the > > medications I depend on. If I were to sell my house and take my kids > > out of college so I could afford to buy my own insurance policy, it > > wouldn't cover my meds because they would be deemed to be for a pre- > > existing condition. What's your solution to that, Bert? > > Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly. Access to health care is not dependent upon employment. If you were better at negotiating pay with your employer and you did a better job saving money you would have enough money to pay for your health care. Instead you have abdicated your personal responsibility to someone else which has made you dependent upon their generosity and goodwill. When the teat is taken away you are lost and can't figure out where your next meal is coming from. |